ccTLD IDN Task Force Meeting
Monday Jan 13, 2003 1500h UTC
1.
Call to Meeting
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Interim Chair, Professor Lee Young-Eum
called the meeting to order at 1515h UTC
The proposed agenda is as listed in Annex
1.
2.
Roll call at 1520h UTC
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Lee
Young-Eum, Chairperson of the Meeting.
Ian
Chiang, TWNIC ian@twnic.net.tw (Secretary of Meeting)
Nai-Wen
Hsu, Director, Technology Support Dept, TWNIC snw@twnic.net
Ching
Chiao, International Affairs and Public Relations Service Dept, TWNIC
chiao@twnic.net.tw
Joanna
Tso, Director, International Affairs and Public Relations Service Dept, TWNIC joanna@twnic.net
Chi
Liping International Affairs and Public Relations Service Dept, TWNIC liping@twnic.net.tw
Abhisak
Chulya, Exec Director, ccTLD Secretariat
Eric
Akumiah, Deputy Exec Director, ccTLD Secretariat eric.akumiah@strath.ac.uk
Sultan
Al Shamsi, UAEnic, Dubai. sultan@uaenic.ae
Sara
Al Nooryani, UAEnic, Dubai sara@uaenic.ae
Ladislav
Vobr, Emirates Telecommunication, ETISALAT UAE
Amani
bin Sewaif, ETISALAT UAE ocean@emirates.net.ae
Saleem
Al-Balooshi, UAE. Saleemnb@emirates.net.ae
Hiro
Hotta, JPRS, Japan hotta@jprs.co.jp
Khaled
Fattal, MINC Board Chairman
S
Subbiah, MINC Board, INFITT member, i-DNS.net Chairman, Stanford University
Tan
Tin Wee, MINC Board and Acting CEO (Scribe of Meeting)
Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr
3.
Chairperson of ccTLD IDN Task Force
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The
meeting started with discussion on the Chairperson of the ccTLD IDN Taskforce.
The
criteria for the Chairperson was discussed as follows:
a. Must be able to turn up for APRICOT in Taipei and
for ICANN meeting in Rio de Janeiro (Abhisak)
b.
Must be able to commit to push the IDN agenda for ccTLDs (TTW)
c.
Should have experience in IDN agenda (TTW)
and very clear understanding of technical
IDN matters (Elisabeth P)
d.
Preferable to be acceptable to as many ccTLDs as possible
e. Should be able to report and drive the initiative
according to the agenda listed for this meeting (TTW)
f.
Must be neutral to IDN matters (Elisabeth P and Lee YE)
Chairperson summarised
two candidates
Lee
Young-Eum 3 EP HH AC
Tan
Tin Wee 1 SS
(Votes
indicated)
Abhisak
called for a vote.
EP
clarified that it should be one vote per ccTLD present.
Abhisak
clarified that if there is one vote per ccTLD present, and then it should be
taken to the ccTLD-discuss mailing list.
HH
suggested that the status of this TF is to create charter.
Before
fixing it, and proposing it to ccSO (ccNSO), he proposes "one vote per
interested ccTLD".
EP
reiterated that in this meeting, and in this vote for a chairperson, expression
of support should be the case and each ccTLD should have one voice of support.
The
matter was left unresolved.
4.
Interested ccTLDs
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ccTLD
representatives who declared interest to work on IDN matters were listed, as
far as they were known.
Oscar
Robles .mx
Yann
Kwok .mu
Hiro
Hotta .jp
Elisabeth
Porteneuve .fr
TWNIC
.tw
Bernard
Turcotte .ca
UAEnic
.ae
Lee
Young-Eum, representing KRNIC .kr
5.
Task Force Charter
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The
Chairperson considered that the principal task of the ccTLD IDN TF is to
coordinate the various IDN activities in the ccTLD community as well as in
other regional and global communities since the ccTLD user communities will be
the principal users of IDN. She offered the version 1.1 Nov 2002 of the Task
Force charter in Annex 2.
HH
agreed with ccTLDs' role, arguing that if IDNs do have language-semantics, the
basic source of information for IDN definition and IDN usage is ccTLDs.
TW
questioned the "Introduction" of the Charter of the TF, arguing that
ccTLDs are the most diverse group and most difficult to unite in a single
voice. So if ccTLD is to coordinate IDN efforts, they should be restricted to coordinating
IDNs which are translated in their respective ccTLD, leaving other types of
non-geographically related IDNs to other more suitable groups.
TW
also suggested that the "Objectives" section of the charter should
clearly state where the ccTLD IDN TF's mission should end, at those IDNs which
are not sliced according to geographical boundaries of ccTLDs, and those which
transverse multiple ccTLDs in a trans-ccTLD manner.
EP
mention that within the EU, there is a rule that ccTLD should be open for
registration to the Member states. It means than if IDNs are implemented, it
implies Latin, Cyrillic and Greek altogether from a script perspective, the
scripts listed being examples of those used within European Union.
TW
reminded that one of the key charter points should be for the ccTLD IDN TF to
identify which issues are not within their scope and shed light on how these
issues if handled by other competent entities, must satisfy ccTLD's criteria
and requirements, so that these other entities will have a better understanding
of what solutions are acceptable to ccTLDs and which are not.
TW
continued: In the areas which ccTLDs decide that they do not wish to go into,
ccTLD IDN TF must come up with requirements list which will satisfy the needs
of the ccTLDs This should be one of the deliverables of the TF which can guide
other groups to move forward.
And
to help others move this forward, ccTLDs TF should identify the competent
entities which it would like to work with to achieve those aims which it cannot
do on its one, and those tasks which ccTLD IDN TF has identified it cannot do,
or is not well positioned to carry out, he added.
Having
identified which parties it wishes to work with on what aspects and issues, it should
start trying to lay the ground work to cooperate with these parties as
negotiations take a long time to come to fruition. In this regard, it should
quickly identify specific partner organizations it wishes to work with.
6.
Issues List
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Chairperson
proposed the following issues list.
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Technical issues: IETF IDN's support for PUNYCODE, Resolution Solutions
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Policy issues: Language Groups, Verisign
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TC/SC issues: how should we resolve it? Agreements within CDNC?
S
Subbiah reminded the meeting of the ongoing challenge of WALID to lay claim
over the IETF IDN proposed standards.
Regarding
the policy issues list, the most crucial is the problem which WALID patent will
pose to the IETF IDN proposed standards because IETF will not adopt standards
unless it is free of intellectual property encumbrances. It is not clear if
Walid will release its IPR on IDN if IETF adopts IDNA as standard.
EP
also indicated that Bill Semich also has laid claim to a patent on IDNs as
well.
Chairperson
requested that documentation on these IPR issues should be added to the
archives.
7.
ccTLD Workshop on IDN Activities
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The
Chairperson tabled the proposal of draft Agenda of the Workshop in February during
APRICOT meeting and this document was revised during the discussion of this meeting
(See Annex 3).
8.
Compilation of Documentation List
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Chairperson
urged all to build up the document archive.
A
draft list has been compiled by JPRS/JPNIC.
SS
mentioned that there are a lot of pre-history documents from 1998 to 1999 from
the APNG testbed and also some ITU and WIPO documents, and requested TTW and
Arabic groups to come up with more information.
9.
End of Meeting
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The
meeting was adjourned at 1730h UTC.
Annex
1
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Proposed
ccTLD IDN TF meeting Agenda
(Monday,
January 13, 2003, 15:00 UTC)
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1. Discussion of TF Charter
2. Development of Issue List
- Technical issues: IETF IDN's support for
PUNYCODE, Resolution Solutions
- Policy issues: Language Groups, Verisign
- TC/SC issues: how should we resolve it?
Agreements within CDNC?
3. Review IDN document list: corrections,
additions
4. Plan for meeting in Apricot
Annex
2
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ccTLD
IDN TF Charter
Version:
1.0
Written:
October 30, 2002 (by Young-Eum Lee, yesunny@nuri.net)
Version
1.1
Revised:
November 21, 2002 (by Young-Eum Lee, yesunny@nuri.net)
Interim
Chair: Young-Eum Lee (yesunny@nuri.net)
1.
Introduction
Various
local, regional, and global efforts towards the development of internationalized
domain names (IDN) have existed since the late 1990s. Recently, IDN went
through the standardization process at IETF which approved publication of four
proposed standards.
In
light of these activities, the ccTLD community, with its international membership
consisting of the major users of IDN, is considered to be the most appropriate
group for coordinating internationalized domain name efforts around the globe.
2.
Objectives
The
objective of this Task Force is to provide a regular forum among the various
stakeholders of IDN development so that we may coordinate IDN activities in
order to enable the ccTLD registries to prepare for IDN services. The
coordinating activities of the ccTLD IDN Task Force will include exchanging
information and addressing issues for the various language groups.
3.
Work Items
The
ccTLD IDN Task Force has the following work items in mind.
Development
of Issues List
Development
of Recommended Best Practices
Creates
archives of various resources from around the world
Undertake
public relations effort, including outreach
4.
Schedule
Pre-Meeting:
2002 Dec. 14, in Amsterdam
First
IDN Forum: Feb. 25 (Tue), 2003: During APRICOT in Taipei
(Extended)
IDN Committee Meeting: March 22, 2003 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Second
IDN Forum: June 21, 2003 in Montreal, Canada
5.
Participants
There
is no limitation on qualification of participants. People who are interested in
IDN development are strongly encouraged to participate. We especially would
like to encourage participation of various language groups.
Annex
3
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Proposed
Workshop on IDN Activities
Dates:
February 24-26, 2003
Venue:
Taipei back to back with APRICOT
Feb
24 - Pre-Meeting
Feb
25 - Main Session
Feb
26 - Wrap-up session and adoption of draft resolutions regarding IDN
9:00
- 10:30 Identification of Issues
Technical
JET - TWNIC representative; Hiro Hotta
IETF
- James SEng
Policy
Issues - Lee Young-Eum, former chair,
Registration Policy WG, MINC
Problem languages/Scripts:
- Han Script Chinese TC SC problem
- Tamil Script cross national borders
problem.
- Urdu Arabic script cross-India-Pakistan
problem.
- Arabic script 22 countries
- Cyrillic script trans-national and
trans-language
10:45
- 12:30 Individual ccTLD Development Efforts
China
Taiwan
Japan
Korea
2:00
- 3:30 Regional and Language Group Efforts
JET
CDNC
AINC
INFITT - S Subbiah or a representative from
INFITT ExCo
EUROLINC - Jefsey Morfin
CLINC - Sergey Charikov
Report of Arabic Language Effort - Khaled
Fattal
Japanese Effort - Hiro Hotta
Chinese Traditional Effort - Vincent Chen,
TWNIC
Korean Effort - ?, KRNIC
3:45
- 5:00 International Efforts
IETF
ICANN IDN - Masanobu Katoh, Elisabeth
Porteneuve
MINC IDN Interoperability Efforts - Tan Tin
Wee
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